#12256: "ELO calculation: Joint placements results. "
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For games like Lewis & Clark and Not Alone where joint placements are common. ELO calculation can take away ELO from a winning players, or ELO points can be awarded to a losing player.• Vennligst forklar hva du ønsket å gjøre, samt hva du faktisk gjorde og hva som skjedde
• Hvilken nettleser bruker du?
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For games like Lewis & Clark and Not Alone where joint placements are common. ELO calculation can take away ELO from a winning players, or ELO points can be awarded to a losing player.• Er denne teksten tilgjengelig i translation system? Hvis ja, har den blitt oversatt i mer enn 24 timer?
• Hvilken nettleser bruker du?
Google Chrome v73
• Vennligst forklar ditt forslag nøyaktig og konsistent slik at det er så enkelt som mulig å forstå hva du mener.
For games like Lewis & Clark and Not Alone where joint placements are common. ELO calculation can take away ELO from a winning players, or ELO points can be awarded to a losing player.• Hvilken nettleser bruker du?
Google Chrome v73
• Hva ble vist på skjermen når du ble blokkert (Tom skjerm? Del av spillgrensesnittet? Feilmelding?)
For games like Lewis & Clark and Not Alone where joint placements are common. ELO calculation can take away ELO from a winning players, or ELO points can be awarded to a losing player.• Hvilken nettleser bruker du?
Google Chrome v73
• Hvilken del av reglene ble ikke respektert av BGA-tilpasningen
For games like Lewis & Clark and Not Alone where joint placements are common. ELO calculation can take away ELO from a winning players, or ELO points can be awarded to a losing player.• Er regelbruddet tydelig i spilloggen? Hvis ja, Hvilket trekknummer?
• Hvilken nettleser bruker du?
Google Chrome v73
• Hva var spillhandlingen du ønsket å gjøre?
For games like Lewis & Clark and Not Alone where joint placements are common. ELO calculation can take away ELO from a winning players, or ELO points can be awarded to a losing player.• Hva prøvde du å gjøre for å trigge denne spillhandlingen?
• Hva skjer når du prøver å gjøre dette (feilmelding, meldingsstatus for meldingsfelt, ...)?
• Hvilken nettleser bruker du?
Google Chrome v73
• På hvilket tidspunkt i spillet oppsto problemet (hva var den daværende spillinstruksjonen)?
For games like Lewis & Clark and Not Alone where joint placements are common. ELO calculation can take away ELO from a winning players, or ELO points can be awarded to a losing player.• Hva skjer når du forsøker å gjøre en spillhandling (feilmelding, spillstatusfeltmelding, ...)?
• Hvilken nettleser bruker du?
Google Chrome v73
• Vennligst beskriv visningsproblemet. Hvis du har et skjermbilde av denne feilen (alltid lurt) kan du bruke Imgur.com for å laste det opp og kopiere inn lenken til bildet her.
For games like Lewis & Clark and Not Alone where joint placements are common. ELO calculation can take away ELO from a winning players, or ELO points can be awarded to a losing player.• Hvilken nettleser bruker du?
Google Chrome v73
• Vennligst kopier / lim inn teksten som vises på engelsk i stedet for språket ditt. Hvis du har et skjermbilde av denne feilen (alltid lurt) kan du bruke Imgur.com for å laste det opp og kopiere inn lenken til bildet her.
For games like Lewis & Clark and Not Alone where joint placements are common. ELO calculation can take away ELO from a winning players, or ELO points can be awarded to a losing player.• Er denne teksten tilgjengelig i translation system? Hvis ja, har den blitt oversatt i mer enn 24 timer?
• Hvilken nettleser bruker du?
Google Chrome v73
• Vennligst forklar ditt forslag nøyaktig og konsistent slik at det er så enkelt som mulig å forstå hva du mener.
For games like Lewis & Clark and Not Alone where joint placements are common. ELO calculation can take away ELO from a winning players, or ELO points can be awarded to a losing player.• Hvilken nettleser bruker du?
Google Chrome v73
Rapporthistorikk
the same is true for Lewis & Clark where every loser comes joint 2nd.
Basically, independent of the game outcome, you have a tie with all players in human team, and your score will be adjusted on a value based on ELO difference.
If you have players with higher ELO (and probability of victory is higher) you get a boost to your ELO, if you have players with lower ELO (and probability of victory is lower) you get a drop of your ELO.
This is totally weird.
imgur.com/Nj1pldz
The bug is that some ELO calculations occur in the absence of any competition between players. It occurs mainly in 2 typical cases :
1) games ending normally, but for games with only one winner, all other players being losers. If the losers cannot be ranked, due to lack of score, you cannot pretend there were competitions between losers, and that these players finished in a tie. Only ELO calculations between the winner and each loser are justified, the other ones are inappropriate.
2) games interrupted due to the departure of a player. It is in a way the opposite of the previous situation: the result is one loser, all other players are winners, and winners are not ranked, following the rules of this website. As in the previous case, only ELO calculations between the loser and each winner are justified, the other ones are inappropriate.
Hello everyone,
We finally found the good way to implement this.
It concerns only games where the winners win as a team, and losers lose as a team. These games are easy to spot: they are the one where the "1st / 2nd / 3rd" are replaced by "Winners / Losers" in the table results. Examples: Werewolves, Not alone, Coup city state.
For these games, you cannot win ELO if you are a "loser", and you cannot lose ELO if you are a "winner".
Thanks for suggesting this.
There is no reason I (RicardoRix) should gain ELO:
and also Savilov shouldn't be losing ELO to anyone other than Jai:
boardgamearena.com/table?table=60814597
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