#32886: "Eliminate hidden trackable information (at least when playing async)"
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Detaljert beskrivelse
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• Vennligst kopier/lim inn feilmeldingen du ser på skjermen, om mulig.
In person (and possibly live), tracking what pieces other players have played is mostly possible. But async, it's pretty impossible. Yes, I can reconstruct it from the log, or take personal notes every turn. Better, IMO, is if all players had access to all information -- how many of each component each player has remaining.
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• Vennligst forklar hva du ønsket å gjøre, samt hva du faktisk gjorde og hva som skjedde
• Hvilken nettleser bruker du?
Google Chrome v90
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• Vennligst kopier / lim inn teksten som vises på engelsk i stedet for språket ditt. Hvis du har en skjermdump av denne feilen (god kutyme), kan du bruke en bildelagringstjeneste (snipboard.io for eksempel) til å laste den opp og lime in lenken her. Er denne teksten tilgjengelig i oversettelsessenteret? Hvis ja, har den vært oversatt i mer enn 24 timer?
In person (and possibly live), tracking what pieces other players have played is mostly possible. But async, it's pretty impossible. Yes, I can reconstruct it from the log, or take personal notes every turn. Better, IMO, is if all players had access to all information -- how many of each component each player has remaining.
• Hvilken nettleser bruker du?
Google Chrome v90
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• Vennligst forklar ditt forslag nøyaktig og konsistent slik at det er så enkelt som mulig å forstå hva du mener.
In person (and possibly live), tracking what pieces other players have played is mostly possible. But async, it's pretty impossible. Yes, I can reconstruct it from the log, or take personal notes every turn. Better, IMO, is if all players had access to all information -- how many of each component each player has remaining.
• Hvilken nettleser bruker du?
Google Chrome v90
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• Hva ble vist på skjermen når du ble blokkert (Tom skjerm? Del av spillgrensesnittet? Feilmelding?)
In person (and possibly live), tracking what pieces other players have played is mostly possible. But async, it's pretty impossible. Yes, I can reconstruct it from the log, or take personal notes every turn. Better, IMO, is if all players had access to all information -- how many of each component each player has remaining.
• Hvilken nettleser bruker du?
Google Chrome v90
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• Hvilken del av reglene ble ikke respektert av BGA-tilpasningen
In person (and possibly live), tracking what pieces other players have played is mostly possible. But async, it's pretty impossible. Yes, I can reconstruct it from the log, or take personal notes every turn. Better, IMO, is if all players had access to all information -- how many of each component each player has remaining.
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• Er regelbruddet tydelig i spilloggen? Hvis ja, Hvilket trekknummer?
• Hvilken nettleser bruker du?
Google Chrome v90
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• Hva var spillhandlingen du ønsket å gjøre?
In person (and possibly live), tracking what pieces other players have played is mostly possible. But async, it's pretty impossible. Yes, I can reconstruct it from the log, or take personal notes every turn. Better, IMO, is if all players had access to all information -- how many of each component each player has remaining.
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• Hva prøvde du å gjøre for å trigge denne spillhandlingen?
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• Hva skjer når du prøver å gjøre dette (feilmelding, meldingsstatus for meldingsfelt, ...)?
• Hvilken nettleser bruker du?
Google Chrome v90
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• På hvilket tidspunkt i spillet oppsto problemet (hva var den daværende spillinstruksjonen)?
In person (and possibly live), tracking what pieces other players have played is mostly possible. But async, it's pretty impossible. Yes, I can reconstruct it from the log, or take personal notes every turn. Better, IMO, is if all players had access to all information -- how many of each component each player has remaining.
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• Hva skjer når du forsøker å gjøre en spillhandling (feilmelding, spillstatusfeltmelding, ...)?
• Hvilken nettleser bruker du?
Google Chrome v90
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• Vennligst beskriv visningsproblemet. Hvis du har en skjermdump av denne feilen (god kutyme), kan du bruke en bildelagringstjeneste (snipboard.io for eksempel) til å laste den opp og lime in lenken her.
In person (and possibly live), tracking what pieces other players have played is mostly possible. But async, it's pretty impossible. Yes, I can reconstruct it from the log, or take personal notes every turn. Better, IMO, is if all players had access to all information -- how many of each component each player has remaining.
• Hvilken nettleser bruker du?
Google Chrome v90
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• Vennligst kopier / lim inn teksten som vises på engelsk i stedet for språket ditt. Hvis du har en skjermdump av denne feilen (god kutyme), kan du bruke en bildelagringstjeneste (snipboard.io for eksempel) til å laste den opp og lime in lenken her. Er denne teksten tilgjengelig i oversettelsessenteret? Hvis ja, har den vært oversatt i mer enn 24 timer?
In person (and possibly live), tracking what pieces other players have played is mostly possible. But async, it's pretty impossible. Yes, I can reconstruct it from the log, or take personal notes every turn. Better, IMO, is if all players had access to all information -- how many of each component each player has remaining.
• Hvilken nettleser bruker du?
Google Chrome v90
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• Vennligst forklar ditt forslag nøyaktig og konsistent slik at det er så enkelt som mulig å forstå hva du mener.
In person (and possibly live), tracking what pieces other players have played is mostly possible. But async, it's pretty impossible. Yes, I can reconstruct it from the log, or take personal notes every turn. Better, IMO, is if all players had access to all information -- how many of each component each player has remaining.
• Hvilken nettleser bruker du?
Google Chrome v90
Rapporthistorikk
Because in real life in it is difficult to remember how many pieces people have left unless you have a REALLY good memory (specially in 3-4 players games). Assisting players with such information, would, IMHO, ruin part of the spirit of the game. Of course, you can still browse through the logs and see that, but it is difficult, much more like in the live game. Perhaps as an option of people want it, but it will definitively not be by default.
Perhaps, showing the number of TOTAL pieces placed (or remaining) could be done as default, I have to think about this because as it does not require memory but just to count pieces on the booard, it is much more the spirit of the game.
There is a substantial cadre of gamers who play any game where all hidden information is strictly trackable (as it is here) with open hands, and that group also has significant overlap with the type of gamers who like these old school abstract placement euros. To have the option to play this way in the digital world would be great.
I'm not sure I get the "spirit of the game" argument. There's nothing else in the game to indicate that memory or bluffing etc is an intended mechanism or element of the competition in the game, nor do a player's holdings ever change except by removal (it's not like a hidden-money game where flows are going both in and out).
Thanks for considering the option.
With 2 players, it is a cut-throat battle where every move you make matters, and I don't even think that there is an argument for why that information shouldn't be displayed that's worth making. Why not just make it easier for both players when you are able to survey the complete state of the game by counting anyway?
With real competitive games against strangers where your ELO ranking is at stake though, this really just doesn’t make any sense.
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- En annen bord ID / flytt ID
- Løste F5 problemet?
- Oppstod problemet gjentatte ganger? Hver gang? Tilfeldig?
- Hvis du har en skjermdump av denne feilen (god kutyme), kan du bruke en bildelagringstjeneste (snipboard.io for eksempel) til å laste den opp og lime in lenken her.
